we've got another eu summit in march, which is not -- which is not ear marked, of course, as a budget meeting, but i daresay we will trickle along nicely or unnicely until finally they reach an agreement on the next budget. in terms of the eurozone debt crisis, of course, that's the other point of discussion. at the moment, there's a little bit of cautious shoulder padd g padding, but it will be a bit more cautious because of the aforementioned festering crisis in spain. obviously, what we've seen at the moment is we live on the principal hope that the eurozone might grow itself or stabilize itself out of the crisis, a far cry yet for spain, but the latest refinancing operation in the various eurozone countries, including at the short end of the range for spain looks like a bit of relief. no relief in terms of the actual solving of the problems, but we'll hear none of that tonight. >> as we've learned, that's often the case with these situations. sylvia, thanks very much for that. tina fordham is still with us. from your point of view, how important is today's meeting? how important b